Star Wars RPG - Une nouvelle édition?

[Fitzz]

Voici ce que j'ai trouvé sur amazon.com par hasard

Star Wars Roleplaying Game: Saga Edition (Star Wars Roleplaying Game)

Curieux j'ai fait des recherches sur le site de wizards et j'ai trouvé ceci:

The new WotC product catalog is out, covering January to April 2007. Here's the product entry for the Star Wars Roleplaying Game Saga Edition:

Star Wars Roleplaying Game: Saga Edition
Owen K.C. Stephens and Rodney Thompson*

This new edition of the Star Wars Roleplaying Game encapsulates all six feature films while presenting a thorough revision of the rules, making the game easier to learn while improving the overall play experience. The new 288-page core rulebook includes new character abilities and options, a streamlined skill system, a revised combat system, new feats and Force powers, a world gazetteer, statistics for key characters from all six Star Wars films and the Expanded Universe, and guidelines on how to use Star Wars Miniatures and battle maps in play.
*Based on the Star Wars Roleplaying Game Revised Core Rulebook by Bill Slavicsek, Andy Collins, and JD Walker

Key Selling Points:
* This is the first official Star Wars Roleplaying Game product to include Episode III content.
* The core rules have been revised and streamlined to make the game easier to learn and more fun to play.
* This new edition of the Star Wars Roleplaying Game is more miniatures-friendly than previous editions and includes a battle map and guidelines for using Star Wars Miniatures in play.
* Fans of the Star Wars Roleplaying Game have been anxiously awaiting a version of the rulebook that includes updated information on all six feature films.

March 6, 2007
Format: Hardcover
Pages: 288
MSRP $39.95/$49.95 CAN

[MoonZar]

Super c'est une bonne nouvelle bien que j'étais déjà pas mal satisfait du matériel existant. J'aurais préféré qui continue à expendre ce qui existe déjà, je trouvais intéressant la série qui avait commencé que les systèmes de planètes (core world, rims world etc.)

[Fitzz]

Ils vont peut-être s'arranger pour avoir des pdf pour faire la conversion facilement.

En tout esperons que c'est pas juste un coup pour qu'ils vendent plus de miniatures... ;-)

[MoonZar]

Pourquoi il ferait une conversion ça va être d20 encore non ? J'ESPÈRE ! Sinon c'est un grand pas en arrière selon moi. J'aime beaucoup uniformité ça permet de prendre dans tous les systèmes ce qu'on aime facilement.

[MoonZar]

> The core rules have been revised and streamlined to make the game easier to learn and more fun to play.

D'après moi c'est une revision de édition d20

[Fitzz]

Ca va etre D20 mais je voulais dire a la manier qu'ils ont fait un petit pamphlet quand ils ont passer de 3.0 a 3.5 pour clarifier les concepts.

[MoonZar]

Peut-être mais si je me fis au changement de la premiere edition de d20 starwars et celle qu'on utilise maintenant il y a eu peu de changement sur ce qu'il existait. Ils ont surtout ajouté des nouveaux trucs qui étaient compatible.

[Fitzz]

C'est probablement pour accomoder le dernier film qui n'était pas tourné a l'époque du recised core rules

[MoonZar]

Ouais c'est un coup argent, je suis juste surpris qui le relance après avoir annoncé qui imprimerait pu rien de starwars. Peut-être que la pétition a donné quelque chose finalement pour reprendre l'impression.

[Fitzz]

Avait-ila vraiment fait une annonce officielle qu'il ne plubierait plus rien?

J'étais plus sous l'impression qu'aucun mot précis n'avait été prononcé outre qu'il n'y avait pas de livre en chantier pour les prochains mois. Autrement dit ils entretenait plus la confusion qu'autres choses.

[MoonZar]

Oui c'était officiel sur le site starwars d20 que c'était dead sauf pour les figurines.

J'avais publié le lien ainsi que le lien de la pétition quelque part sur le forum.

[MoonZar]

En parlant de dead il y a pas de nouveau poste sur le site officiel depuis le 19 octobre 2006. Il avait vraiment annoncé qu'il ferait pu rien sauf des mignatures. J'avais signé une pétition pour qu'il continue a faire des livres.

[Fitzz]

Oui moi aussi j'avais signer la pétition... Mais attendons je suis sur qu'avec le venue prochainement a la TV des series Star Wars l'interet pour le RPG va etre renouveller...

[MoonZar]

Sans parlé du box des 6 films qui va sortir un jour en DVD ça fait longtemps j'attend après ça hehehe

[Fitzz]

Posté aujourd'hui dans la 100e édition du Jedi Conseling:

Wizards of the Coast plans to relaunch its Star Wars Roleplaying Game line in March of 2007 with a 288-page revised core rulebook. The new book is referred to as the "Saga Edition" because it includes material from the entire Star Wars saga, including all six films. The Star Wars Roleplaying Game: Saga Edition is written by Christopher Perkins, Owen K.C. Stephens, and Rodney Thompson, and developed by Gary M. Sarli and Andy Collins, with art direction by Paul Hebron.

The Star Wars Roleplaying Game: Saga Edition presents a thorough revision of the existing rules, but it remains a d20 game. The main goal is to make the game easier to run while improving the overall play experience. The new rulebook includes Episode III content and places greater emphasis on the use of Star Wars miniatures and battle maps.

At 288 pages, the Saga Edition rulebook is slimmer than previous editions, thanks in large part to the streamlined and elegant rules system. Folded into the back of the book is a double-sided battle map, similar to the battle maps that have appeared previously in Star Wars Miniatures Game products and the Ultimate Missions series of books.

As of this writing, the manuscript is in its final stages of development and editing, so a few details might still change as we finish up. Still, this section should give you a broad overview of what you can look forward to in the new game. The Saga Edition rulebook breaks down as follows:

Introduction

Everything a player or Gamemaster needs to know to get started.

Chapter 1: Abilities

Characters still have six abilities: Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma. Not much has changed in this chapter.

Chapter 2: Species

Players still have a broad choice of species to choose from when creating characters, and we've added Devaronians to the list of options. Most of the changes you'll find here are just reflections of the changes in the skill system (below), but there have also been some tweaks to try to give each species its own unique appeal.

Chapter 3: Heroic Classes

There are five heroic classes in the game: Jedi, noble, scoundrel, scout, and soldier. A player can customize her character by choosing from a selection of class skills, class-specific talents, and feats. All of the classes have undergone extensive revision to make them more fun to play at all levels. Multiclassing is easier now than it has ever been.

As for the classes dropped in this edition (Force adept, fringer, and tech specialist), don't worry: These character concepts will still be playable, and their best abilities have been reborn as groups of talents for other classes.

Chapter 4: Skills

We've condensed and consolidated the skill list so that there are fewer skills in the game. Many skills that existed in the previous edition have been grouped together under a single skill; for example, the Deception skill replaces the Bluff, Disguise, and Forgery skills. All of the old Force skills have been replaced with a single skill called Use the Force, which works in conjunction with the new Force powers presented in Chapter 6. We've also devised a skill system that doesn't require players or Gamemasters to keep track of skill ranks, making it much easier to create and update characters in much less time.

Chapter 5: Feats

We've tweaked some of the old feats and added some exciting new ones. Force feats have been replaced with Force powers (appearing in Chapter 6). A few old feats have been reborn as class talents, but at the same time you'll find some old class features represented by new feats.

Chapter 6: The Force

Force Points work differently than before, but they're still in the game. The Force skills and Force feats from previous editions have been replaced with a new set of Force powers that require the Use the Force skill to activate. The Force powers use a "recharge" mechanic that's new to the game. Most importantly, a character of any class can become a skilled Force-user who is the equal of any Jedi. Finally, expect some tweaks to the Dark Side rules.

Chapter 7: Heroic Traits

Little has changed in this chapter (previously titled Heroic Characteristics), except that we've taken the Reputation mechanic out of the game. In its place, you'll find a new Destiny mechanic that helps to create an epic feel to your campaign.

Chapter 8: Equipment

Armor and weapons work a bit differently in the new edition, but most of the equipment remains the same. Some of the notable changes include streamlined rules for autofire weapons, area weapons (such as grenades), and stun blasts.

Chapter 9: Combat

The combat rules have been extensively reworked to speed up play, give characters better options, and make Star Wars miniatures a more useful part of the play experience. (This doesn't mean the Saga Edition is just an extension of the Star Wars Miniatures Game. Instead, it means that miniatures are a useful utility for running a good game, much like a Gamemaster screen, and we tried to find ways to integrate them seamlessly with your campaign.) Among the more noteworthy changes are the introduction of the swift action (similar to that seen in Dungeons & Dragons) and the use of hit points in place of vitality points and wound points.

Chapter 10: Vehicle Combat

The rules for vehicle and starship combat have been collected in a single chapter and revised to match changes to the combat rules in Chapter 9. The rules have been streamlined to make these encounters more cinematic and easier to run, and you'll find useful details such as Challenge Ratings for different vehicles and starships as well as some mechanics inspired by the new Star Wars MiniaturesStarship Battles game.

Chapter 11: Droids

You can still play droids as characters, if you wish. However, the rules for droids have been streamlined and revised to match other changes to the system. In addition, you'll find complete rules for building new droids.

Chapter 12: Prestige Classes

As with previous editions, the Saga Edition rulebook presents a selection of prestige classes for heroes and villains, including the bounty hunter, Jedi Master, and Sith Lord. Class features have been revised extensively to make the prestige classes more enticing and viable. Additionally, you'll find a Force adept prestige class ideal for Force-users from traditions other than the Jedi or Sith.

Chapter 13: Galactic Gazetteer

This chapter is aimed at players and presents detailed descriptions for various key worlds in the Star Wars galaxy, including the homeworld of every alien species presented in Chapter 2.

Chapter 14: Gamemastering

This chapter has been condensed, but it still contains rules that GMs need to create and run their own Star Wars adventures and campaigns. The Challenge Code system is replaced by a Challenge Rating system similar to that used in Dungeons & Dragons and d20 Modern, allowing for more precise adventure design including both combat and noncombat encounters. It also presents a single GM character class called the "nonheroic character" class, which replaces the diplomat, expert, and thug classes from previous editions. Finally, this chapter offers short, ready-to-play scenarios designed for use with the enclosed battle map.

Chapter 15: Eras of Play

This chapter discusses the various eras of play and presents game statistics for a few noteworthy characters from the Star Wars universe.

Chapter 16: Allies and Opponents

Here you'll find game statistics for creatures and GM characters that heroes are likely to encounter across the various eras. The creatures and characters in this chapter are meant to cover a broad spectrum of encounters in addition to having appropriate representation with official Star Wars miniatures.

That covers the basics of the new Saga Edition rulebook. In the next "Jedi Counseling," we'll start going through individual topics in more detail.

[MK007]

J'ai surtout hâte de voir la force. Les Jedis seront probablement égaux avec les autres classes en terme de puissance, en tout l'"écart sera probablement moins grand. Je suis aussi content de la disparition du noble et du techspec.
Je l'achèterai probablement!

[MoonZar]

J'aime bien le principe que n'importe quel classe va pouvoir utilisé la force.

[Fitzz]

Moi aussi je suis content. J'essayais depuis quelques semaines déjà d'adapter la force a un systeme plus proche de la psionie. Et d'apres ce que je crois comprend c'est justement ce que cette édition la va faire en ayant un systeme plus 'compatible' avec les power ou spell du systeme d20.

En plus ca devrait aider a balancer les classes un peu mieux entre elle dans le systme de star wars.

MK007 m'a fait remarquer aussi qu'ils vont abandonner le system vitaly/wound pour un système de hit point ce qui risque d'être plus simple pour adapter des regles d'un systeme a l'autre

[Fitzz]

Moi aussi je suis content. J'essayais depuis quelques semaines déjà d'adapter la force a un systeme plus proche de la psionie. Et d'apres ce que je crois comprend c'est justement ce que cette édition la va faire en ayant un systeme plus 'compatible' avec les power ou spell du systeme d20.

En plus ca devrait aider a balancer les classes un peu mieux entre elle dans le systme de star wars.

MK007 m'a fait remarquer aussi qu'ils vont abandonner le system vitaly/wound pour un système de hit point ce qui risque d'être plus simple pour adapter des regles d'un systeme a l'autre

[MoonZar]

Par contre quand c'est rendu trop proche d'un système psionie, il me semble que utiliser que les psionics fait aucune différence a part la différence psychologique que c'est écrit jedi sur ta classe...

Tous les pouvoirs jedi sont dans des règles de psionique. Si on ajoute les abilité de classe à l'épée des jedi à un psychic warrior et qu'on lui ajoute quelque pouvoir de plus dans sa liste pour avoir un équivalent à tous les skills de jedi, ça revient au même avec l'avantage d'avoir un système de règle de moins à trainer dans le jeux.

[MoonZar]

MK007 m'a fait remarquer aussi qu'ils vont abandonner le system vitaly/wound pour un système de hit point ce qui risque d'être plus simple pour adapter des regles d'un systeme a l'autre

Je trouve que les règles adaptation du unearther arcana était très claire. Le système de Wound et Vitality rend les personnages un peu moins invinsible et blood thirsty. Quand c'est rendu que tu as 150-100 hp tu respecte pu l'adversaire et tu fonce tête baisé avec un système de hp seulement.

Tandis que avec les vitality/wound tous le monde a une chance réel de tuer tous le monde. Un critique avec un 20 et confirmé te laisse la chance de pouvoir faire explosé la tête de n'importe qui, ce qui est logique... C'est pas parce que tu es niveau 15 que tu peux pas mourir d'un seul coup de blaster en réalité.

Ça va être ma plus grosse déception du changement de système...

[MoonZar]

Le nouveau livre est annoncé sur Amazon pour le mois de Mai 2007.

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASI...A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB

[Fitzz]

MK007, j'ai placé ta commande de pre-order.

Prend note que la date de sortie est 22 mai 2007....