Alignement

[Aristiana]

Moi qui en arrache encore un peu avec les alignements et tous, j'ai trouvé ceci sur un site. J'aimerai avoir votre opinion...

(Et je pense que le LN a une ligne qui ne lui va pas dutout)

Lawful Good
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1. Always keeps his word.
2. Never lies.
3. Never attack, harm or kill an innocent foe.
4. Never harm an innocent.
5. Never torture for any reason. Will not allow torture.
6. Always helps others.
7. Always work within the law.
8. Respects honor, self-discipline, authority and law.
9. Works well within a group.
10. Never take 'dirty money' or items.
11. Never betray a friend. Ever. For ANY reason.

Neutral Good
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1. Always keeps his word.
2. Is VERY unlikely to lie, expept perhaps to an evil person.
3. Never attack or kill an unarmed foe.
4. Never harm an innocent.
5. Never tortures for any reason. Is very unlikely to allow torture for any
reason.
6. Never kill for pleasure.
7. Always tries to help others.
8. Works well in groups.
9. Never take dirty money or items.
10. Never betray a friend.

Chaotic Good
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1. Keeps his word to any other good person.
2. Lies only to neutral or evil people.
3. Never attack or kill an unarmed foe.
4. Never harm an innocent.
5. Never torture for pleasure or information. Threats may be permissible.
6. Never kill for pleasure.
7. Always tries to help others.
8. Distrusts authority.
9. Works well in groups, but dislikes confining rules and 'red tape'.
10. Never take dirty money or items.
11. Never betray a friend.

Lawful Neutral
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1. Keep his word of honor.
2. Lie and cheat only if very necessary.
3. Never attack or harm an unarmed foe.
4. Never harm an innocent.
5. Does not use torture unless ABSOLUTELY necessary. (Never for pleasure)
6. Never kill for pleasure.
7. Usually helps those in need.
8. Works in groups well, especially if it suits his needs.
9. Will quite possibly take dirty money.
10. Never betrays a friend.
11. Has a high reguard for life and personal freedom.

Chaotic Neutral
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1. May keep his word.
2. Lies and cheats if he feels it necessary.
3. Never kill an unarmed foe, but may knock out or beat up one.
4. Never kill an innocent but may harm or kidnap.
5. Will use torture to extract information but not for pleasure.
6. Seldom kills for pleasure.
7. Is not likely to help someone without an alterior motive. (Even if its just
showing off!).
8. Has little respect for authority.
9. Does not work well within groups - tends to do as he pleases, despite orders
to the contrary.
10. Will usually take dirty money or items.
11. Is very unlikely to betray a friend.

Lawful Evil
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1. Always keeps his word of honor.
2. Lies and cheats those not worthy of his respect.
3. May or may not kill an unarmed foe.
4. Never kill an innocent but will harm, harass or kidnap.
5. Never torture for pleasure but will to extract information.
6. Never kills for pleasure - always has a reason.
7. May or may not help someone in need.
8. Respects honor and self-discipline. Has no time for the law.
9. Will work with others to attain his goals.
10. May take dirty money.
11. Never betray a friend.

Neutral Evil
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1. Will not necessarily keep his word to anyone.
2. Lies and cheats indiscriminately.
3. Will happily kill an unarmed foe.
4. Will harm and use an innocent, killing if necessary.
5. Uses torture to extract information. (And enjoys it! May torture for
pleasure).
6. May kill for sheer pleasure.
7. Feels no compulsion to help others without some sort of tangible reward.
8. Works with others if it will help achieve his personal goals.
9. Will take dirty money etc without hesitation.
10. Will betray a friend if it serves his needs.
11. Has little respect for others' lives.

Chaotic Evil
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1. Rarely keeps his word. Has no honor.
2. Lie and cheat anyone.
3. Most certainly attack and kill an unarmed foe (those are the best kind!).
4. Will hurt and/or kill an innocent without a second thought. (Or for
pleasure).
5. Uses torture to extract information and pleasure.
6. Will kill for sheer pleasure.
7. Is likely to help someone only on a whim.
8. Despises honor and authority and self-discipline. Views them as weaknesses.
9. Does not work well in a group. Constantly vying for power and/or command.
10. Will always take dirty money etc.
11. Will betray a friend. After all, you can always get another friend.
12. Associates mostly with other evil alignments.

Clo.

[MoonZar]

C'est une bonne référence mais il y a quelques points de douteux dans certain alignement mais bon.

[Aristiana]

C'est justement pour que tous le monde disent ce qu'ils trouvent douteux que je l'ai posté ici

Clo.

[Mijan]

Voici mon idee...

Clo, base-toi sur ceci pour la comprehension de l'alignement...

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1 - Lawful / Neutral / Chaotic : Elles portent sur le sens moral du personage

Lawful: a un sens moral assez developpe
Neutral: c'est le juste millieu (c'est assez tough a etre vraiment neutre entre chaotic et lawful)
Chaotic: Sens moral, Qu'est-ce?

2 - Good / Neutral / Evil : Elles portent sur l'egard du personnage face a la vie d'autrui.

Good: tout vie a son importance.
Neutral: c'est le juste millieu (comme je disais plus haut, c'est dur d'etre absolument neutre)
Evil: Seule ma vie a de l'importance.
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Donc, selon ma logique ci-haut decrite, tous les evenements dans la vie d'un personnage a une valeur morale & un egard a la vie d'autrui.

Mijan
:hat

[MoonZar]

Je vais faire le LN mais j'ai pas le temps faire les autres. Mais bon un Lawful a une cause, donc on va prendre la reine elfique.

Lawful Neutral
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1. Keep his word of honor.

Claire !

2. Lie and cheat only if very necessary.

Il faut comprendre que mentir pour la dévotion à une cause est acceptable. Par exemple mentir pour réussir la quête que la reine elfique aurait donné n'est pas un acte chaotique si c'est vraiment nécessaire.

3. Never attack or harm an unarmed foe.

Claire !

4. Never harm an innocent.

Claire !

5. Does not use torture unless ABSOLUTELY necessary. (Never for pleasure)

Ce qu'il veule dire c'est que torturer quelqu'un pour avoir une information qui pourrait sauver des vies ou pour une raison X qui aide la cause comme sauver le royaume elfique.

6. Never kill for pleasure.

Autrement dit il va tuer quand le monde vont se mettre dans son chemin qui est une mission pour son pays et sa reine ou quelque chose comme ça.

7. Usually helps those in need.

En fait si ça ne nuit pas à sa cause un LN devrait aider les gens en détresse. Mais bon si sa le fait dévier de son but ou mission il n'aidera pas la personne. Par exemple un priest de la magie LN ne donnerait pas un spells pour sauver des vies puisque donner un spells est contre ces dogmes.

8. Works in groups well, especially if it suits his needs.

Normal un lawful cherche toujours a faire les choses en groupe et en facon ordonné. Ce n'est pas le genre de personnage super indépendant disons. Un personnage Lawful gravite autour d'une organisation.

9. Will quite possibly take dirty money.

Dans le sens que ça aide la cause pourquoi pas.

10. Never betrays a friend.

Claire !

11. Has a high reguard for life and personal freedom.

Celle la a pas trop rapport... un lawful focus sur sa cause et est dépendant de sa cause donc il n est pas vraiment libre.